We have not broached the subject of Sedevacantism, because we like to stay focused on The Dogma and the current crisis in the Church. Frankly the Sedvacantism problem is so convoluted that we couldn't dedicate time to a full rebuttable.
Frankly most of the rebuttals we have seen, appeared weak to us. Searches for upcoming crisis with the SSPX must have triggered this video into our feed and we were pleasantly surprised. We are thankful for the work done in this video documentary.
This is a well done expose of Sedevancantism. I think the producers of this documentary may not know, that like Traditionalists exits inside the Church in communion with the Pope, so too the majority of "Feeneyites" are also in communion with the Church. It is a small sliver of Sedevancantists who reject Baptism of Desire, mainly the Dimond brothers.
The Dimonds do some good work on EENS but we cannot agree with them about Sedvacantism nor some other matters they hold, like rejection of NFP.
We don't post much because time is short and we covered a majority of the topics we wanted to cover.
In any case watch this documentary
The Catholic Vox --- a call for Vatican III--(understanding no salvation outside the Church)
Home-page "Every question you ever wanted answered about the dogma 'No Salvation Outside the Church" Vatican III in the post is fictitious but also serious. We hope for a REAL Third Vatican Council to clear up the mess of the past 50 years. This blog hopefully will give some insights Vatican III--Session I
PDF book Baptism of Desire
Sunday, June 28, 2026
Sedevacantism
Monday, December 30, 2024
'Implicit Faith in Christ' Does Not Suffice for Justificatio
By Brother André Marie (from https://catholicism.org/ )
FATHER Thomas Crean, O.P., Dr. Alan Fimister, and Dr. John Joy have authored a twenty-five-page scholarly article, written in the scholastic format, in the pages of the theological journal, Divinitas. Called “Can a Person Be Justified by ‘Implicit Faith in Christ’?,” the article is available for purchase as a download from the Divinitas website (at $4.28, it’s a bargain).
The article’s abstract gives the scope of the work of these three scholars:
In this article the question is treated whether explicit faith in Christ is necessary for justification. The introduction specifies the state of the question, lays out the thesis that is being defended, and gives the reasons for the scholastic format of the article. The objections are then stated. The arguments stem from both speculative and positive theology involving all possible sources: Scripture, Magisterium, Church Fathers, etc. The respondeo affirms explicit faith in Christ as a necessity of means for justification, insisting on the gratuity and supernaturality of salvation. The contrary opinions of some later theologians are then briefly exposed. Lastly the objections are each answered individually.
The authors opted to use the scholastic format, first stating the objections to their thesis (eighteen of them!), then a sed contra (“on the contrary”), then the detailed development of their own thesis, followed by answers to the objections. All this is in the fashion of Saint Thomas Aquinas and other mediaeval scholastic theologians. Crean, Fimister, and Joy adopt this method not as an exercise in creative anachronism, but, as they say, in order to separate their own positive statement of the thesis they are upholding from their replies to objections against it.
Friday, May 3, 2024
Pope Pius IX Did Not Teach Salvation Outside The Church
While we don't agree with Sedevacantism the Dimonds do excellent work on EENS. Here is an excellent job on the controversy of Pius IX:
Saturday, February 4, 2023
The Errors of the Laisneyites
Catholic Vox editor: Here we present an older defense of EENS defened by Michael Malone, against Fr. Laisney of the SSPX.
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Sunday, January 1, 2023
The Catholic Dogma -- Book by Rev. Michael Müller, C.SS.R
The Catholic Dogma - Contents
The Catholic Dogma
by Rev. Michael Müller, C.SS.R
"Extra Ecclesiam Nullus omnino Salvatur."
"Out of the Church there is positively no Salvation." - Fourth Lateran Council, 1015
"Error, cui non resistur, approbatur; et Veritas, cum minime defensatur."
"Not to oppose erroneous Doctrine is to approve of it, and not to defend at all true Doctrine is to suppress it." - Innocent III.
Index
Preface
Chapter I. Introductory
Chapter II. The Infallible and only True Guide to Heaven
Chapter III. The Great Revolt Against Christ
Chapter IV. Dishonesty of His Impudence Bishop Coxe
Chapter V. Refutation of the False Assertions of Rev'ds Sir Oracle, Cronin and Young.
Chapter V - PART I.
There is no salvation out of the Church.§ 1. S.O begins to comment on some answers, contained in our little work, "Familiar Explanation of Christian Doctrine," (first edition)
§ 2. S.O. continues to speak ex cathedra.
§ 3. S.O. examines and explains the question and answer, "Have Protestants any faith in Christ? A. They never had.
§ 4. What Catholic faith is.
§ 5. What Protestants' belief in Christ is.
§ 6. More false oracles of Sir Oracle.
§ 7. S.O. declares truth to be rant and abuse.
§ 8. S.O. continues to declare false what is true.
§ 9. S.O. declares wholly untrue what he cannot understand.
§ 10. S.O. avows that our conclusion is correct, but tells more d--d lies.
§ 11. S.O. declares that the final sentence of the Eternal Judge, "I know you not--Depart from me, etc." will fall, not on Protestants, but only on bad Catholics; but from his own words it is proved that Protestants, too, are included in that sentence.
§ 12. S.O. declares the honest life of Protestants a standing reproach to bad Catholics.
§ 13. S.O.'s. pharisaical language.
Those who live in heresy without being guilty of the sin of heresy.
§ 1. Natural Law.
§ 2. The written Law.
§ 3. The New Law or the Law of Grace.
§ 4. Conscience in general.
§ 5. Kinds of conscience:1. The right or true conscience.
2. The certain conscience.
3. The timorous or tender conscience.
4. The doubtful conscience.
5. The lax conscience.
6. The perplexed conscience.
7. The scrupulous conscience.
8. The erroneous or false conscience.§ 6. What heretics are not guilty of the sin of heresy -- Refutation of Rev. A. Young's erroneous doctrine on divine faith of material heretics.
§ 7. Invincible or inculpable ignorance neither saves nor damns a person.
§ 8. How Almighty God leads to salvation those who are inculpably ignorant of the truths of salvation.
§ 9. Those who sincerely seek the true religion.
§ 10. S.O. on confession.
§ 11. S.O. points out the road to heaven for heathen and Protestants of every denomination.
§ 12. S.O. gives us credit for our correct doctrine in a way very dishonorable to himself.
§ 13. S.O. as Catechist.
§ 14. Liberalism condemned by the Church.
Monday, August 1, 2022
Karl Rahner and the Unspoken Framework of (Much of) Modern Theology - OnePeterFive
Charles Coulombe’s interesting remark in a recent article that Pius XII, for all his intransigence against dogmatic modernism, allowed Father Karl Rahner, S.J., to be the editor of the prestigious Denzinger prompted me to take up the question of Rahner’s theology and the immense influence it has had on modern Catholic discourse. His influence is such that it is no longer even felt or perceived as such, but has successfully created an atmosphere, a set of implicit assumptions, a mental miasma within which many theologians and students work without even realizing that it is Rahnerian rather than Catholic. Just as for many centuries nearly every work of theology and spirituality bore the unmistakable imprint of St. Thomas—whether he was expressly cited or not—so too, the unmistakable imprint of the Jesuit of Innsbruck is to be found nearly everywhere, including in authors who are styled “conservative.”[1]
Inevitably, a figure of Rahner’s magnitude, who published dozens of volumes of dense material, is not someone it is easy to summarize, and I offer the following “big picture” fully recognizing that it will lack nuance. However, I am convinced there is a big picture at work; that we can accurately identify what it is; and that it is sufficient for assessing his impact and raising critical questions about it. Every thinker has certain guiding ideas that coalesce around a few major themes, and if one can find out what those are, one has a sort of “key” to the rest.
Saturday, July 9, 2022
Explaining the Faith - Freemasonry: Meaning and Mission
What is Freemasonry and why does the Catholic Church condemn it? Is it justified or a misunderstanding? Join Fr. Chris Alar as he gives the history and meaning behind this secret society and what their defined mission actually is.
Roe v. Wade
We can only praise God for the overturning of Roe v. Wade. Not much else to say. Mary Immaculate Queen Triumph and Reign !!
Monday, May 23, 2022
Saint Ambrose and Valentinian
from web.archive.org The whole fascinating story is well documented in the book by Bro. Robert Mary, “Father Feeney and The Truth About Salvation”,
An often used example of a candidate for supposed "baptism of desire" was the young Roman Emperor, Valentinian II, a catechumen who, at the age of twenty, was assassinated in the year 392. He had planned to be baptized in Milan by his dear friend, Saint Ambrose. The memorial oration delivered by the Saint is constantly cited as a "proof" that the early Church believed in "baptism of desire." The quote from the oration usually begins with these words:
But I hear you grieve because he did not receive the Sacrament of Baptism . . .
Let us stop Saint Ambrose at this point and reflect on what he just
said. All of the faithful assembled for the memorial service are grieved. Why are they
grieved? Saint Ambrose says they are grieved because there is no evidence that the
Emperor, a known catechumen, had been baptized before his death. But if "baptism of
desire" was something contained in the "Deposit of Faith" and part of the
Apostolic doctrine, why would they be grieved? Did not Valentinian earnestly desire
Baptism?
Wednesday, March 30, 2022
Was the Fatima Consecration Valid?
Here is a good discussion of the Fatima consecration. We at Catholic Vox think it was properly done. Only time will tell if it was. Obviously it was not done properly before because there was no dramatics conversion of Russia.