Let's be Honest

 from :Tim Harrington

Let's be honest. BoDers don't have a thing to stand on.

EENSers Say You DO need:

Water	Agrees with words of Jesus Christ
The Sacraments	Agrees with the Council Trent
The Church	Agrees with the infallible proclamations
The Faith	Agrees with sacred scripture

B.O.D.--ers Say You DON'T need:

Water	Disagrees with words of Jesus Christ
The Sacraments	Disagrees with the Council Trent
The Church	Disagrees with the infallible proclamations
The Faith	Disagrees with sacred scripture

*(BOD = Baptism of Desire)

Use this example when you discuss it with a priest.
Say a unbaptized secularist comes to a priest and says "I want to be a Catholic!"

Is he a Catholic then and there?
BoDer will say: "No, not yet"---(if yes then he doesn't need baptism.)

So the priest is welcoming and gives him a Catechism and class to attend--which our catechumen does excellent at. When he finishes the classes is he a member of the Church then?
BoDer: "No, not yet"---(if yes then he doesn't need baptism)

you: "But he has the desire--when does his desire make him a member of the Church?"

So then the catechumen wakes-up one day and walks on his way to get baptized in the church.
On that day when he wakes up is he a member of the Church?
BoDer: "No, not yet"---( if yes then he doesn't need to be baptized)

Now our catechumen is crossing the street in front of the Church to be baptized in say 45 minutes.
Is he a member then?
BoDer: "No not yet"---( if yes then he doesn't need to be baptized)

Just as he is taking his final step to cross the street he is hit by a car and is killed! Is he then a member?
BoDer: "Yes!"
How?
BoDer: "Because he was going to die and God has no power to avoid such catastrophes, so He invented BoD so he wouldn't look powerless!"


PLEASE lets be honest BoD makes no sense.