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CFT- "Catholics for Truth" are concerned Catholics. We run this blog. We are not traditionalists, though we sympathize with the movement. We go to the Novus Ordo Mass. Most would call us conservative/orthodox Catholics. We have researched the problems in the Church for years and believe the core problem is Ecclesiastical Theology (study of the Church), which is related to these heresies: Indifferentism, Latitudinism, & Modernism.

We don't believe that the human aspects of the Church were perfect before Vatican II but we believe that it is worse after it. We believe Vatican II is too vague in places and confusing on many issues but we don't think it is heretical.

We accept the ruling pope, Pope Benedict XVI (and now Pope Francis and now Pope Leo XIV) and reject sedevacantism. We are not members of a "Feeneyite" group or followers of Fr. Feeney, though we sympathize with his core crusade of :"Extra Ecclesiam Nulla Salus". We reject any of his racist views or any other uncharitable comments.

A strict understanding of EENS, which we hold, is an acceptable Catholic position according to the Congregation of the Doctrine of the Faith. Canon lawyer Peter Vere confirmed this:
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  • apologetics (35)
  • Apologetics --Relativism (1)
  • Apologetics Morality (1)
  • apologetics- Sacramental Seal (2)
  • apologetics- the Greeks (3)
  • apologetics-- Baptism of Desire/Blood (15)
  • apologetics-- Church Fathers (2)
  • apologetics-- few are saved (3)
  • apologetics-- Limbo (6)
  • apologetics-- Trent does not teach "Baptism" of Desire (1)
  • Apologetics---Mistranslation of Trent concerning :Baptism of Desire (2)
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  • apologetics--valid baptism (1)
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  • BoD and Bellarmine (1)
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  • Creeds (2)
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  • current crisis: communion in the hand (3)
  • EENS -Defended against Mr. Lofton (1)
  • EENS and SSPX (1)
  • EENS DEFENDED against Dave Armstrong (1)
  • EENS defended against Jim Blackburn--Catholic Answers (1)
  • EENS Defended by Adam Miller: "MATT16:18" (1)
  • EENS defended by Bishop Hay (1)
  • EENS Defended by theologian: FR. BRIAN HARRISONcurrent crisis (1)
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  • EENS--Vatican II (1)
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  • EENS: Defended (7)
  • EENS: Defended against Jimmy Akin (1)
  • EENS: Defended- Ignorance and Pius IX (1)
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  • EENS: Defended- Ignornce and Pius IX (3)
  • EENS: Defended--Vatican II (1)
  • EENS: Defended: Watering Down John 3:5 (1)
  • EENS: Defense against Fr. Most (2)
  • EENS: Doctrinal Summery (1)
  • EENS: John Paul II and the Encyclical "Redemtoris Missio" --explained (1)
  • EENS: Popes (1)
  • EENS: SUMMARY (1)
  • EENS: The New Catechism (1)
  • Feeneyites Status in Church (2)
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  • Fr. Barron--No one in hell (2)
  • Fr. Feeney and Protocol 122/49 (2)
  • Fr. Feeney on Desire (1)
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